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Engine Convertion 95 TC for better MPG's??? Help Please I want to swap my 4.6L V8 for a V6 3L or someting like that Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   SouthZJ 

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 11:10 PM

I searched for Engine Conversions for an Lincoln TC 1995 but could not really find something besides going bigger, i want to go smaller, my Engine has now 330000km on it and its not as power full as it used to so i would have to take the engine out soon anyway to re-do it. Then i cam up with the idea that if i pull out the Engine anyway why not going for a different engine maybe something a bit more modern with a better fuel consuption, i do not really care what Engine it would be i just know that 20% fuel cosumtion would be nice.

Do you guys have any ideas what Engine maybe fits on the Trany or wich Trany Engine Combo gose in to the TC well without any Problems?
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Posted 22 January 2010 - 08:52 AM

View PostSouthZJ, on 21 January 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:

I searched for Engine Conversions for an Lincoln TC 1995 but could not really find something besides going bigger, i want to go smaller, my Engine has now 330000km on it and its not as power full as it used to so i would have to take the engine out soon anyway to re-do it. Then i cam up with the idea that if i pull out the Engine anyway why not going for a different engine maybe something a bit more modern with a better fuel consuption, i do not really care what Engine it would be i just know that 20% fuel cosumtion would be nice.

Do you guys have any ideas what Engine maybe fits on the Trany or wich Trany Engine Combo gose in to the TC well without any Problems?


The 4.6L V8 installed by Lincoln is the best available for your car. If kept tuned and driven normally, you should get 28mph highway and for a 5500lb car, that is damn good. If you want 35mpg, by a Honda.
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Posted 22 January 2010 - 09:12 PM

View PostAll2kool, on 22 January 2010 - 08:52 AM, said:

View PostSouthZJ, on 21 January 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:

I searched for Engine Conversions for an Lincoln TC 1995 but could not really find something besides going bigger, i want to go smaller, my Engine has now 330000km on it and its not as power full as it used to so i would have to take the engine out soon anyway to re-do it. Then i cam up with the idea that if i pull out the Engine anyway why not going for a different engine maybe something a bit more modern with a better fuel consuption, i do not really care what Engine it would be i just know that 20% fuel cosumtion would be nice.

Do you guys have any ideas what Engine maybe fits on the Trany or wich Trany Engine Combo gose in to the TC well without any Problems?


The 4.6L V8 installed by Lincoln is the best available for your car. If kept tuned and driven normally, you should get 28mph highway and for a 5500lb car, that is damn good. If you want 35mpg, by a Honda.


If i would want a Honda i would have bought one and to your coment the 4.6L V8 may have been the best engine in 1995 but today you can move a heavy car with a 2.2L 4cylinder CDI with a lower consumtion then a Smart Car on the High way, so and now you would ask yourself how i know that quite easy i have both a 2.2L CDI Mercedes E-class and a Smart so please stick to the facts and by the way Honda makes very very good Engines
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:03 AM

View PostSouthZJ, on 22 January 2010 - 09:12 PM, said:

View PostAll2kool, on 22 January 2010 - 08:52 AM, said:

View PostSouthZJ, on 21 January 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:

I searched for Engine Conversions for an Lincoln TC 1995 but could not really find something besides going bigger, i want to go smaller, my Engine has now 330000km on it and its not as power full as it used to so i would have to take the engine out soon anyway to re-do it. Then i cam up with the idea that if i pull out the Engine anyway why not going for a different engine maybe something a bit more modern with a better fuel consuption, i do not really care what Engine it would be i just know that 20% fuel cosumtion would be nice.

Do you guys have any ideas what Engine maybe fits on the Trany or wich Trany Engine Combo gose in to the TC well without any Problems?


The 4.6L V8 installed by Lincoln is the best available for your car. If kept tuned and driven normally, you should get 28mph highway and for a 5500lb car, that is damn good. If you want 35mpg, by a Honda.


If i would want a Honda i would have bought one and to your coment the 4.6L V8 may have been the best engine in 1995 but today you can move a heavy car with a 2.2L 4cylinder CDI with a lower consumtion then a Smart Car on the High way, so and now you would ask yourself how i know that quite easy i have both a 2.2L CDI Mercedes E-class and a Smart so please stick to the facts and by the way Honda makes very very good Engines


Go ahead, put a 4-cyl in an LTC. We need a good laugh dumbass.

Two words: Spell Check.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 10:50 AM

and again, first you did not read my topic right so here again I want to swap my 4.6L V8 for a V6 3L or someting like that

second to your two words spell checki am german and for not having English long in school my writing is quite good and by the way at least i speak 4 different Languages How many do you speak or write?

So back to my question is or has there been an Conversion to an more Modern Engine V6 or V8 wich lowers the fuel cosumtion?
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 10:59 AM

View PostSouthZJ, on 23 January 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:

and again, first you did not read my topic right so here again I want to swap my 4.6L V8 for a V6 3L or someting like that

second to your two words spell checki am german and for not having English long in school my writing is quite good and by the way at least i speak 4 different Languages How many do you speak or write?

So back to my question is or has there been an Conversion to an more Modern Engine V6 or V8 wich lowers the fuel cosumtion?


Forgive me.

What is your mileage now that has you wanting an engine more efficient? I can get 21mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway. These cars have an ability to coast for miles; it still amazes me how early I can let off the gas sometimes when I see a red light blocks away. I regularly coast more than 2 miles through town albeit slightly downhill of course and I still have to brake for the left turn light.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:13 AM

View PostAll2kool, on 23 January 2010 - 10:59 AM, said:

View PostSouthZJ, on 23 January 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:

and again, first you did not read my topic right so here again I want to swap my 4.6L V8 for a V6 3L or someting like that

second to your two words spell checki am german and for not having English long in school my writing is quite good and by the way at least i speak 4 different Languages How many do you speak or write?

So back to my question is or has there been an Conversion to an more Modern Engine V6 or V8 wich lowers the fuel cosumtion?


Forgive me.

What is your mileage now that has you wanting an engine more efficient? I can get 21mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway. These cars have an ability to coast for miles; it still amazes me how early I can let off the gas sometimes when I see a red light blocks away. I regularly coast more than 2 miles through town albeit slightly downhill of course and I still have to brake for the left turn light.


Not a Problem

I get in Town 15mpg and on the High way 21mpg and i drive without speeding and coast a lot so thats a bit too much for my tast but the car also has 203188.37 Miles on it it has a view dents but i dont mind i like driving it so i want to keep it alive, i just planed ahead, i know the engine needs a rebuild or an other Engine, at the moment its fine to cruise but it also does not have the Power anymore wich it had befor so some of the Poneys under the Bonet are gone

I would also safe on taxes here in Canada if i swap the V8 for an V6 and the isurance would be a bit cheaper too so its Gas+Taxes+Insurance what made me think of an smaller Engine

Any help would be great
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:49 AM

View PostSouthZJ, on 23 January 2010 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAll2kool, on 23 January 2010 - 10:59 AM, said:

View PostSouthZJ, on 23 January 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:

and again, first you did not read my topic right so here again I want to swap my 4.6L V8 for a V6 3L or someting like that

second to your two words spell checki am german and for not having English long in school my writing is quite good and by the way at least i speak 4 different Languages How many do you speak or write?

So back to my question is or has there been an Conversion to an more Modern Engine V6 or V8 wich lowers the fuel cosumtion?


Forgive me.

What is your mileage now that has you wanting an engine more efficient? I can get 21mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway. These cars have an ability to coast for miles; it still amazes me how early I can let off the gas sometimes when I see a red light blocks away. I regularly coast more than 2 miles through town albeit slightly downhill of course and I still have to brake for the left turn light.


Not a Problem

I get in Town 15mpg and on the High way 21mpg and i drive without speeding and coast a lot so thats a bit too much for my tast but the car also has 203188.37 Miles on it it has a view dents but i dont mind i like driving it so i want to keep it alive, i just planed ahead, i know the engine needs a rebuild or an other Engine, at the moment its fine to cruise but it also does not have the Power anymore wich it had befor so some of the Poneys under the Bonet are gone

I would also safe on taxes here in Canada if i swap the V8 for an V6 and the isurance would be a bit cheaper too so its Gas+Taxes+Insurance what made me think of an smaller Engine

Any help would be great
Thanks


I just cant think of a V6 (Ford or otherwise) that would be enough power without sacrificing gas mileage.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 12:05 PM

I just found a list of Ford Engines on Wiki

6 Cylinder

144 CID straight-6 in a 1964 Ford Falcon
1960–1993 (Longer in Australia) 'Falcon Six' OHV (144, 170, 200, 250) car usage.
1964–1996 OHV (240, 300, 4.9 L) truck 6 built in Cleveland, Ohio
1988–2002 Ford Australia SOHC I6 Falcon engines
1988–1989 3.2 L SOHC
1988–1992 3.9 L SOHC
1992–2002 4.0 L SOHC
1998–2002 4.0 L SOHC VCT
2002–present Ford Australia Barra DOHC I6 4.0 L engines
1951–1966 Zephyr 6 — (United Kingdom)
1967–1988 British Essex V6 — 60° British V6 2.5/3.0 L
1964–present Cologne/Taunus V6 — 1.8–4.0 L pushrod and SOHC V6
1982–2008 Canadian Essex V6 — 90° V6, 3.8/3.9/4.2 L models
1986–2007 Vulcan V6 — 60° pushrod V6 3.0 L, originally designed for the Taurus
1989–1995 SHO V6 3.0/3.2 L DOHC V6
1994–present Mondeo V6 aluminum 60° DOHC
1994–2000 Duratec 25 — 2.5 L
1996–present Duratec 30 — 3.0 L
2000–present Jaguar AJ-V6 — 3.0 L
2004–present AJD-V6 — 2.7 L Diesel
2006–present SI6 — 3.0/3.2 L I6 designed by Volvo[citation needed]
2006–present Cyclone V6 aluminum 60° DOHC
2006–present Duratec 35 — 3.5 L
2007–present Duratec 37 — 3.7 L

i just dont know much about these Engines i gues there would fit all because there will be smaller but i would need to find out wich of them could bolt on to my trany or can i use one of the bellhousings that fits these Engines and fit it to my trany

I know i would have to rewire the motor and some other things but i dont mind about that



2009–present EcoBoost — 3.5 L
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 12:13 PM

I just found an interestin Engine build by Ford and used in the Lincoln LS

Duratec 30


The Ford Duratec 30 Engine in a Mercury Sable.
The 3.0 L Duratec 30 or Mazda AJ was introduced in 1996 as a replacement for the 3.8 L (~232 cu in) Essex V6 in the up-market versions of the Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable.
It has 2,967 cc (181 cu in) of displacement and produces between 200 hp (150 kW) and 240 hp (180 kW).
The same basic engine is used in the Jaguar S-Type, Lincoln LS, Mazda MPV, Mazda 6, Mondeo ST220 and many other Ford vehicles.
It is essentially a bored-out (to 89 mm) Duratec 25 and is built in Ford Motor Company's Cleveland Engine #2 plant in Cleveland, Ohio.
A slightly modified version for the Ford Five Hundred entered production at the Cleveland #1 plant in 2004.
There are two key versions of the Duratec 30:
DAMB - The Lincoln LS and Jaguar AJ30 versions have direct-acting mechanical bucket (DAMB) tappets.
Output is 232 hp (173 kW) at 6750 rpm with 220 lb·ft (298 N·m) of torque at 4500 rpm.
RFF - The Taurus/Sable/Escape version uses roller finger followers (RFF) instead and produces 201 hp (150 kW) at 5900 rpm with 207 lb·ft (281 N·m) of torque at 4400 rpm.
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